(too hard!) LOL!
It has been several years since I participated in the atheist/Christian debates. After lots of time on forums, a bit on blogs, and of course, the occasional personal forays… I have largely let such debates rage on without me. I still will say that you give enough rope to the Atheist and he will hang himself with his arguments, while the Christian will stand there and gut himself. Yes, that is horridly jaded and cynical.
But for some reason , maybe the boredom of January, maybe the long vacation from such debate… I had some interest in an internet Facebook event, which takes place Jan.24.
An Atheist/Christian Debate
http://foolofpsalms.blogspot.com/ vs. http://arguewithachristian.blogspot.com/
Admission is free, bring your own popcorn.
Interesting. I have participated in these too often to think they’re fun, even if heavyweight 😉 Might look on, though.
You’d enjoy arguing with one of my younger brothers. He’s an atheist in the Richard Dawkins school of thought and pretty full on about it. It’s a very well thought out position which he has spent a lot of time on, although one I don’t precisely share (the Marxist view of religion doesn’t line up exactly with Dawkins).
Afraid I’m more with you- don’t have lots of fun, but still interested if new points to think about come up.
I enjoy arguing with those who can do it without getting personally wound up and angry. It is really usually a matter of logic on the debate level.
More interested in the power of the experiential level- but I’m sure that says bad things to some and good things to others. Still it is what we actually choose to live out rather than what we may say about it that matters now.
Bro gets very wound up, but he also has a fierce devotion to logic…if you score a point against him, he’ll say so, not start abusing you.
Is what you’re saying a version of Calvinism, though? God grants good experiences to some and punishes others with bad? Someone who’s experienced an abusive church situation might be forever driven away from Christianity whereas their persecutors may believe wholeheartedly. I think you would say the former were damned and the latter were saved?
This is an especially intriguing paradox, I think, because in some ways it mirrors how we see politics on a more terrestrial level.